🎙️ Ep. #115: Legal Technology Mastery with Law Librarian Jennifer Wondracek – Essential AI Tools and Skills for Modern Lawyers.

Our next guest is Jennifer Wondracek, Director of the Law Library and Professor of Legal Research and Writing at Capital University Law School. Jennifer shares her expertise as a legal technologist and ABA Women of Legal Tech Honoree. She addresses three vital questions: the top technological tools law students and lawyers should leverage, strategies to help new attorneys adapt to firm technologies, and ways law firms can automate routine tasks to prioritize high-value legal work. Drawing on her extensive experience in legal education and technology, Jennifer emphasizes practical solutions, the importance of transferable skills, and the increasing role of generative AI in modern legal practice.

Join Jennifer and me as we discuss the following three questions and more!

1. As Head Librarian at Capital University Law School, what are the top three technological tools or resources that you believe law students and practicing lawyers should be leveraging right now to enhance legal research and client service?

2. What are the top three strategies that lawyers can use to help law students clerking for a firm, or new attorneys, quickly adapt to become proficient with the technology platforms and tools used in their practice, particularly when these tools differ from what they learned in law school?

3. Beyond legal research, what are the top three ways law firms and solo practitioners can use technology to automate routine tasks and create more time for high-value legal work?

In our conversation, we cover the following:

[01:03] Jennifer’s Current Tech Setup

[06:27] Top Technological Tools for Law Students and Practicing Lawyers

[11:23] Case Management Systems and Generative AI

[23:15] Strategies for Law Students and New Attorneys to Adapt to Technology

[31:03] Permissions and Backup Practices

[34:20] Automating Routine Tasks with Technology

[39:41] Favorite Non-Legal AI Tools

Resources:

Connect with Jennifer:

• LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/jennifer-wondracek/

Mentioned in the episode:

• Bloomberg (free ethics guidance & opinions list)

• Charlotin’s AI Hallucinations Tracker (free)

• Database of AI Litigation Tracker (free)

• RAILS chart (free-standing order/local rules tracker)

• Ropes & Gray Map (free-standing order/local rules tracker)

Hardware mentioned in the conversation:

• TCL NXTPAPER 11 Plus Tablet: tcl.com/global/en/tablets/tcl-nxtpaper-11-plus

Software & Cloud Services mentioned in the conversation:

• Clio: clio.com/

• CoCounsel: thomsonreuters.com/en/cocounsel

• Daylite: daylite.app/

• Fastcase / vLex: vlex.com/products/fastcase

• Goblin Tools: goblin.tools/

• IFTTT: ifttt.com/

• LawDroid: lawdroid.com/

• Legal Tech Hub: legaltechnologyhub.com/

• LexisNexis: lexisnexis.com/en-us/gateway.page

• NSLT: legaltechsociety.wildapricot.org/

• PACER: pacer.uscourts.gov/

• Procertas: procertas.com/

• TheFormTool: theformtool.com/

• Westlaw: legal.thomsonreuters.com/en/westlaw

• Zapier: zapier.com/

🎙️ TSL Labs: Listen to June 30, 2025, TSL editorial as Discussed by two AI-Generated Podcast Hosts Turn Editorial Into Engaging Discussion for Busy Legal Professionals!

🎧 Can't find time to read lengthy legal tech editorials? We've got you covered.

As part of our Tech Savvy Lawyer Labs initiative, I've been experimenting with cutting-edge AI to make legal content more accessible. This bonus episode showcases how Notebook.AI can transform written editorials into engaging podcast discussions.

Our latest experiment takes the editorial "AI and Legal Research: The Existential Threat to Lexis, Westlaw, and Fastcase" and converts it into a compelling conversation between two AI hosts who discuss the content as if they've thoroughly analyzed the piece.

This Labs experiment demonstrates how AI can serve as a time-saving alternative for legal professionals who prefer audio learning or lack time for extensive reading. The AI hosts engage with the material authentically, providing insights and analysis that make complex legal tech topics accessible to practitioners at all technology skill levels.

🚀 Perfect for commutes, workouts, or multitasking—get the full editorial insights without the reading time.

Enjoy!

🎙️ Bonus Episode: TSL Lab’s Notebook.AI Commentary on June 23, 2025, TSL Editorial!

Hey everyone, welcome to this bonus episode!

As you know, in this podcast we explore the future of law through engaging interviews with lawyers, judges, and legal tech professionals on the cutting edge of legal innovation. As part of our Labs initiative, I am experimenting with AI-generated discussions—this episode features two Google Notebook.AI hosts who dive deep into our latest Editorial: "Lawyers, Generative AI, and the Right to Privacy: Navigating Ethics, Client Confidentiality, and Public Data in the Digital Age." If you’re a busy legal professional, join us for an insightful, AI-powered conversation that unpacks the editorial’s key themes, ethical challenges, and practical strategies for safeguarding privacy in the digital era.

Enjoy!

In our conversation, the "Bots" covered the following:

00:00 Introduction to the Bonus Episode

01:01 Exploring Generative AI in Law

01:24 Ethical Challenges and Client Confidentiality

01:42 Deep Dive into the Editorial

09:31 Practical Strategies for Lawyers

13:03 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Resources:

Google Notebook.AI - https://notebooklm.google/

🎙️ Ep. 114: Unlocking Legal Innovation: AI And IP With Matthew Veale of Patsnap

Our next guest is Matthew Veale, a European patent attorney and Patsnap's Professional Systems team member. He introduces the AI-powered innovation intelligence platform, Patsnap. Matthew explains how Patsnap supports IP and R&D professionals through tools for patent analytics, prior art searches, and strategic innovation mapping.

Furthermore, Matthew highlights Patsnap's AI-driven capabilities, including semantic search and patent drafting support, while emphasizing its adherence to strict data security and ISO standards. He outlines three key ways lawyers can leverage AI—note-taking, document drafting, and creative ideation—while warning of risks like data quality, security, and transparency.

Join Matthew and me as we discuss the following three questions and more!

1. What are the top three ways IP and R&D lawyers can use Patsnap's AI to help them with their work?

2. What are the top three ways lawyers can use AI in their day-to-day work, regardless of the practice area?

3. What are the top three issues lawyers should be wary of when using AI?

In our conversation, we covered the following:

[01:07] Matthew Tech Setup

[04:43] Introduction to Pat Snap and Its Features

[13:17] Top Three Ways Lawyers Can Use AI in Their Work

[17:29] Ensuring Confidentiality and Security in AI Tools

[19:24] Transparency and Ethical Use of AI in Legal Practice

[22:13] Contact Information

Resources:

Connect with Matthew:

• LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/matthew-veale

• Website: patsnap.com/

Hardware mentioned in the conversation:

• Apple XDR Display: apple.com/pro-display-xdr/

• Herman Miller Chair: hermanmiller.com/en_eur/products/seating/office-chairs/

• Microsoft Surface: microsoft.com/en-us/surface

• MuteMe Button: muteme.com

• Samsung Curved Monitor: samsung.com/us/computing/monitors/curved/

Software & Cloud Services mentioned in the conversation:

• Claude: claude.ai/

• Google Patent: patents.google.com/

• PatGPT: patgpt.ai/

• PatSnap: patsnap.com/

• Windows Copilot: copilot.microsoft.com/

🎙️ Ep. 113 - How Seth Price Scaled a 50-Lawyer Firm and Digital Agency: Tech, Cloud, and the Future of Legal Marketing!

Seth Price, founding partner of Price Benowitz LLP and CEO of BluShark Digital, shares deep insights on leveraging technology to scale law firms. He highlights Salesforce, Clio, and Smart Advocate as essential tools, discussing their specific roles in case management and marketing automation. Seth outlines the evolution of digital marketing for lawyers, stressing the importance of content, links, and local reviews in SEO strategy. He offers tips for interpreting Google Analytics and staying ahead of algorithm changes. Concluding with advice on future-proofing practices, Seth urges law firm leaders to invest in adaptive tech stacks and remain inquisitive amid rapid innovation.

Join Seth and me as we discuss the following three questions and more!

1. What are the top three pieces of tech, software, or hardware you use to scale price benefits from a two-person firm to over 50 attorneys?

2. What are the top three ways you've seen digital marketing change for lawyers, and can you give us a tip for each one?

3. What are your top three tips for law firm leaders looking to future-proof their practices amid rapid technological change?

In our conversation, we cover the following:

[01:23] Seth's Tech Setup

[09:50] Top Three Tech Tools for Scaling Price Benefits

[11:27] Detailed Explanation of Clio and SmartAdvocate

[12:40] Digital Marketing Changes for Lawyers

[16:09] Importance of Local Search and Reviews

[19:00] Tips for Understanding Google Analytics

[25:13] Final Tips for Future-Proofing Law Firms

Resources:

Connect with Seth:

• LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/sethprice

• Website: pricebenowitz.com/

• Website: blusharkdigital.com/seth-price-law-firm-blueprint/

Hardware mentioned in the conversation:

• Comcast Xfinity: www.xfinity.com/learn/internet-service

• Dell Computers: Dell.com

• Pixel: store.google.com/intl/en/ideas/google-pixel-phones/

• Verizon FiOS: verizon.com/home/internet/fios-fastest-internet/

Software & Cloud Services mentioned in the conversation:

• Avvo.com: avvo.com/

• Clio Cloud: clio.com/

• Eva.ai: eva.ai/hr-4-0-eva-ecosystems-api-and-partners/

• HubSpot: hubspot.com/

• QuickBooks Online: quickbooks.intuit.com/global/

• Salesforce: salesforce.com/

• SmartAdvocate: smartadvocate.com/

• Supio: supio.com/

• TextExpander: textexpander.com/

• Yelp: yelp.com/

🎙️ Ep. 112: How Judges and Lawyers Can Use AI Wisely: Judge Scott Schlegel on Best Practices, Pitfalls, and The Future of Legal Tech.

My next guest is the Honorable Judge Scott Schlegel, a nationally recognized judicial innovation and technology leader.

With extensive courtroom and technological experience, Judge Schlegel offers valuable insights into how attorneys can effectively leverage artificial intelligence and legal technology to enhance their workflows. He emphasizes the importance of avoiding common pitfalls while maintaining the highest standards of professional responsibility. Judge Schlegel also underscores the critical need to keep the human in the loop, advocating for a balanced approach that upholds efficiency and legal expertise.

Join Judge Schlegel and me as we discuss the following three questions and more!

1. What are the top three ways lawyers should use AI for their work, and what are the top three ways lawyers do not use AI correctly today?

2. What are the top three things lawyers still get wrong with using technology in the courtroom?

3. AI is the current advancement in technology in the workplace. What are the top three technological advances lawyers should be keeping an eye on soon?

In our conversation, we cover the following:

[00:59] Top Three Ways Lawyers Should Use AI

[04:01] Security and Privacy Concerns with AI

[06:49] Common Mistakes Lawyers Make with AI

[11:52] What Lawyers Are Still Getting Wrong in Court

[18:30] Future Technological Advances for Lawyers

[22:18] Keeping the Human Element in AI Use

Resources:

Connect with Judge Schlegel:

• LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/judgeschlegel/

• Substack: judgeschlegel.substack.com

Software & Cloud Services mentioned in the conversation:

• LexisNexis: lexisnexis.com/en-us

• Westlaw: legal.thomsonreuters.com/en/westlaw

🎙️ Ep. 111: Empowering Attorneys With AI: A Conversation with Hilary Bowman, Co-Winner of the 2025 ABA Startup Alley Competition.

Our next guest is Hilary Bowman, Co-Winner of the 2025 ABA Startup Alley Competition and CEO of Querious. She shares how lawyers can use AI tools like Querious to make client interactions better and more efficient without losing their personal touch. She explains the common challenges lawyers face in client conversations that led to the creation of Querious. Hilary also discusses the steps Querious has taken to address lawyers' concerns about security, privacy, and ethics, ensuring the platform follows professional rules and keeps client information safe.

Join Hilary and me as we discuss the following three questions and more!

1. What are the top three ways lawyers can leverage AI tools like Querious to improve the efficiency and quality of their client interactions without compromising the human element of legal practice?

2. What are the top three challenges in attorney-client conversations that led you to Querious?

3. For lawyers who may be hesitant to adopt AI due to security, privacy, or ethical considerations, what are the top three steps Querious has taken to ensure compliance with professional responsibility rules while safeguarding client confidentiality?

In our conversation, we cover the following:

[01:18] Enhancing Client Interaction

[03:46] Key Challenges Driving Querious Adoption

[09:37] Balancing Privilege and Innovation

[12:34] How Querious Ensures Ethical, Secure AI for Lawyers

[17:33] Integration and Future Plans

Resources:

Connect with Hilary:

LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/hilarybowman/

Website: querious.ai/

Software & Cloud Services mentioned in the conversation:

• Querious: querious.ai/

• Fireflies.ai: fireflies.ai/

🎙️ Ep. 110: Unlock The Power of Video for Law Firms with Ecamm Live!

Join me as we talk with, Katie Fawkes, Director of Marketing at Ecamm. We discuss how lawyers can leverage Ecamm, a live streaming and video production studio for Mac, to enhance their practice. She outlines the top three ways legal professionals can use Ecamm, including remote depositions and virtual hearings.

The discussion compares Ecamm to Zoom, highlighting Ecamm’s advanced functionality. Katie addresses critical security and privacy concerns, offering reassurances for sensitive legal communications. Also, Katie shares expert tips for creating impactful video content, emphasizing how legal professionals can present themselves effectively and professionally using Ecamm’s robust features.

Join Katie and me as we discuss the following three questions and more!

1. What are the top three ways lawyers can use Ecamm to improve virtual client meetings and presentations?

2. What are the top three tips for lawyers looking to create impactful video content - for example, webinars, tutorials, and thought leadership videos using Ecamm?

3. What are the top three features of Ecamm that make it particularly useful for lawyers conducting remote depositions or virtual hearings?

In our conversation, we cover the following:

[01:20] Katie’s Tech Setup

[07:10] Top Three Ways Lawyers Can Use Ecamm

[09:36] Ecamm vs. Zoom: Additional Functionality

[12:24] Security and Privacy Concerns

[13:37] Top Three Tips for Creating Impactful Video Content

[18:34] Using Ecamm for Remote Depositions and Virtual Hearings

[19:53] Common Tech Issues and Solutions

Resources:

Connect with Katie:

• LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/katie-anne-fawkes/

• Website: ecamm.com/

Hardware mentioned in the conversation:

• OBSBOT Tiny 2 Cameras: obsbot.com/store/products/tiny-2

• Shure MV6 Microphone: shure.com/en-US/products/microphones

• Shure MV7 Microphone: shure.com/en-US/products/microphones/mv7

• Shure MV7i Microphone: shure.com/en-US/products/microphones/mv7i?variant=MV7i

🎙️ Ep. 109: Building Trust in Legal AI - Clearbrief's Jacqueline Schafer on Security, Citations in The Future of Law.

I'm joined by Jacqueline Schafer, Founder and CEO of Clearbrief.ai. Jacqueline shares key insights into how legal professionals can effectively leverage AI. She outlines three essential expectations from legal AI assistants: robust security, accurate and verifiable citations, and seamless integration into legal workflows. Jacqueline addresses common misconceptions about AI, encourages responsible use, and highlights Clearbrief's unique features, including its seamless integration with Microsoft Word and AI-driven document analysis. With a focus on ethics, usability, and innovation, Jacqueline also provides a clear vision for the future of AI in legal practice.

Join Jacqueline and me as we discuss the following three questions and more!

1. What are the top three things lawyers should expect from their legal AI assistant?

2. What are the top three ways clearbrief.ai differentiates from its competitors?

3. Regardless of what a lawyer uses, what are the top three things lawyers need to be mindful of regarding their legal and ethical responsibilities?

In our conversation, we cover the following:

[01:09] Jacqueline's Tech Setup

[02:33] Top Three Expectations from Legal AI Assistants

[06:58] Top Three Things Lawyers Should Not Expect from Legal AI Assistants

[08:36] Clearbrief's Unique Features and Differentiators

[17:37] Ethical Responsibilities and Training Staff

Resources:

Connect with Jacqueline:

• LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/jackieschafer

• Website: clearbrief.com/ 

Mentioned in the episode: 

• Jacqueline at ABA Techshow: linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity

Software & Cloud Services mentioned in the conversation:

• Clearbrief: clearbrief.com/

• LexisNexis: lexisnexis.com/en-us