🎙️ Ep. 117: Legal Tech Revolution, How Dorna Moini Built Gavel.ai to Transform the Practice of Law with AI and Automation.

Dorna Moini, CEO and Founder of Gavel, discusses how generative AI is transforming the way legal professionals work. She explains how Gavel helps lawyers automate their work, save time, and reach more clients without needing to know how to code. In the conversation, she shares the top three ways AI has improved Gavel's tools and operations. She also highlights the most significant security risks that lawyers should be aware of when using AI tools. Lastly, she provides simple tips to ensure AI-generated results are accurate and reliable, as well as how to avoid false or misleading information.

Join Dorna and me as we discuss the following three questions and more!

1. What are the top three ways generative AI has transferred Gavel's offerings and operations?

2. What are the top three most critical security concerns legal professionals should be aware of when using AI-integrated products like Gavel?

3. What are the top three ways to ensure the accuracy and reliability of AI-generated results, including measures to prevent false or misleading information or hallucinations?

In our conversation, we cover the following:

[01:16] Dorna's Tech Setup and Upgrades

[03:56] Discussion on Computer and Smartphone Upgrades

[08:31] Exploring Additional Tech and Sleeping Technology

[09:32] Generative AI's Impact on Gavel's Operations

[13:13] Critical Security Concerns in AI-Integrated Products

[16:44] Playbooks and Redline Capabilities in Gavel Exec

[20:45] Contact Information

Resources: 

Connect with Dorna:

• Instagram: instagram.com/dorna_at_gavel

• LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/documentautomation/

• Website:gavel.io/ 

Websites & SaaS Products:

• Apple Podcasts — Podcast platform (for reviews)

• Apple Podcasts — Podcast platform (for reviews)

• ChatGPT — AI conversational assistant by OpenAI

• ChatGPT — AI conversational assistant by OpenAI

• Gavel — AI-powered legal automation platform (formerly Documate)

• Gavel Exec — AI assistant for legal document review and redlining (part of Gavel)

• MacRumors — Apple news and product cycle information

• MacRumors — Apple news and product cycle information

• Notion — Workspace for notes, databases, and project management

• Notion — Workspace for notes, databases, and project management

• Slack — Team communication and collaboration platform 

Hardware:

• Apple iPhone 15 — Smartphone

• Apple Mac Mini — Compact desktop computer

• Apple Mac Studio — Desktop computer

• Apple MacBook Pro — Laptop computer

• Eight Sleep — Smart mattress and sleep technology

Other:

• Apple Business Account — For business purchases and trade-ins

🎙️ Ep. #115: Legal Technology Mastery with Law Librarian Jennifer Wondracek – Essential AI Tools and Skills for Modern Lawyers.

Our next guest is Jennifer Wondracek, Director of the Law Library and Professor of Legal Research and Writing at Capital University Law School. Jennifer shares her expertise as a legal technologist and ABA Women of Legal Tech Honoree. She addresses three vital questions: the top technological tools law students and lawyers should leverage, strategies to help new attorneys adapt to firm technologies, and ways law firms can automate routine tasks to prioritize high-value legal work. Drawing on her extensive experience in legal education and technology, Jennifer emphasizes practical solutions, the importance of transferable skills, and the increasing role of generative AI in modern legal practice.

Join Jennifer and me as we discuss the following three questions and more!

1. As Head Librarian at Capital University Law School, what are the top three technological tools or resources that you believe law students and practicing lawyers should be leveraging right now to enhance legal research and client service?

2. What are the top three strategies that lawyers can use to help law students clerking for a firm, or new attorneys, quickly adapt to become proficient with the technology platforms and tools used in their practice, particularly when these tools differ from what they learned in law school?

3. Beyond legal research, what are the top three ways law firms and solo practitioners can use technology to automate routine tasks and create more time for high-value legal work?

In our conversation, we cover the following:

[01:03] Jennifer’s Current Tech Setup

[06:27] Top Technological Tools for Law Students and Practicing Lawyers

[11:23] Case Management Systems and Generative AI

[23:15] Strategies for Law Students and New Attorneys to Adapt to Technology

[31:03] Permissions and Backup Practices

[34:20] Automating Routine Tasks with Technology

[39:41] Favorite Non-Legal AI Tools

Resources:

Connect with Jennifer:

• LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/jennifer-wondracek/

Mentioned in the episode:

• Bloomberg (free ethics guidance & opinions list)

• Charlotin’s AI Hallucinations Tracker (free)

• Database of AI Litigation Tracker (free)

• RAILS chart (free-standing order/local rules tracker)

• Ropes & Gray Map (free-standing order/local rules tracker)

Hardware mentioned in the conversation:

• TCL NXTPAPER 11 Plus Tablet: tcl.com/global/en/tablets/tcl-nxtpaper-11-plus

Software & Cloud Services mentioned in the conversation:

• Clio: clio.com/

• CoCounsel: thomsonreuters.com/en/cocounsel

• Daylite: daylite.app/

• Fastcase / vLex: vlex.com/products/fastcase

• Goblin Tools: goblin.tools/

• IFTTT: ifttt.com/

• LawDroid: lawdroid.com/

• Legal Tech Hub: legaltechnologyhub.com/

• LexisNexis: lexisnexis.com/en-us/gateway.page

• NSLT: legaltechsociety.wildapricot.org/

• PACER: pacer.uscourts.gov/

• Procertas: procertas.com/

• TheFormTool: theformtool.com/

• Westlaw: legal.thomsonreuters.com/en/westlaw

• Zapier: zapier.com/

🎙️ TSL Labs: Listen to June 30, 2025, TSL editorial as Discussed by two AI-Generated Podcast Hosts Turn Editorial Into Engaging Discussion for Busy Legal Professionals!

🎧 Can't find time to read lengthy legal tech editorials? We've got you covered.

As part of our Tech Savvy Lawyer Labs initiative, I've been experimenting with cutting-edge AI to make legal content more accessible. This bonus episode showcases how Notebook.AI can transform written editorials into engaging podcast discussions.

Our latest experiment takes the editorial "AI and Legal Research: The Existential Threat to Lexis, Westlaw, and Fastcase" and converts it into a compelling conversation between two AI hosts who discuss the content as if they've thoroughly analyzed the piece.

This Labs experiment demonstrates how AI can serve as a time-saving alternative for legal professionals who prefer audio learning or lack time for extensive reading. The AI hosts engage with the material authentically, providing insights and analysis that make complex legal tech topics accessible to practitioners at all technology skill levels.

🚀 Perfect for commutes, workouts, or multitasking—get the full editorial insights without the reading time.

Enjoy!