🎙️ Ep. # 124: AI Governance Expert Nikki Mehrpoo Shares the Triple E Protocol for Implementing Responsible AI and Legal Practice While Maintaining Ethical Compliance and Protecting Client Data.

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My next guest is Nikki Mehrpoo. She is a nationally recognized leader in AI governance for law practices, known for her practical, ethical, and innovation-focused strategies. Today, she details her Triple-E Protocol and shares key steps for safely leveraging AI in legal work.

Join Nikki Mehrpoo and me as we discuss the following three questions and more!

  1. Based on your pioneering work with “Govern Before You Automate,” what are the top three foundational steps every lawyer should take to implement AI responsibly, and what are the top three mistakes lawyers make with AI?

  2. What are your top three tips or tricks when using AI in your work?

  3. When assessing the next AI platform from a service provider, what are the top three questions lawyers should be asking?

In our conversation, we cover the following:

  • 00:00:00 – Welcome and guest’s background 🌟

  • 00:01:00 – Current tech setup and cloud-based workflows ☁️

  • 00:02:00 – Privacy and IP management, not client confidentiality 🔐

  • 00:03:00 – Document deduplication with Effingo 📄

  • 00:04:00 – Hardware: HP Omni Book 7 Laptop, HP monitors, iPhone 💻📱

  • 00:05:00 – Efficiency tools: Text Expander, personal workflow shortcuts ⌨️

  • 00:06:00 – Balancing technology innovation and risk management ⚖️

  • 00:07:00 – Adapting to change, ongoing legal tech education 🧑‍💻

  • 00:08:00 – Triple-E Framework: Educate, Empower, Elevate 🚀

  • 00:09:00 – Governance, supervision duties, policy setting 🛡️

  • 00:10:00 – Human verification as a standard for all legal AI output 🧑‍⚖️

  • 00:12:00 – Real-world examples: AI hallucinations, bias, and due diligence ⚠️

  • 00:13:00 – IT vs. AI expertise, communicating across teams 🛠️

  • 00:14:00 – Chief AI Governance Officer, governance in legal innovation 🏛️

  • 00:15:00 – Global compliance, EU AI Act, international standards 🌐

  • 00:16:00 – Hidden AI in legacy software, policy gaps 🔎

  • 00:17:00 – Education as continuous legal responsibility 📚

  • 00:18:00 – Better results through prompt engineering 🔤

  • 00:19:00 – Verify, verify, verify: never trust without review ✔️

  • 00:20:00 – ABA Formal Opinion 512: standards for responsible legal AI 📜

  • 00:21:00 – Nikki’s Triple-E Protocol, governance best practices 📊

  • 00:22:00 – Data origin, bias, and auditability in legal AI systems 🧩

  • 00:23:00 – Frameworks for “govern before you automate” in legal workflows 🔒

  • 00:24:00 – Importance of internal hosting and zero retention policies 🏢

  • 00:25:00 – Maintaining confidentiality with third-party AI and HIPAA compliance 🤫

  • 00:26:00 – Where to find Nikki and connect 🌐

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🎙️ Ep. #116: Free Versus Paid Legal AI: Conversation with DC Court of Appeals Head Law Librarian Laura Moorer

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Laura Moorer, the Law Librarian for the DC Court of Appeals, brings over two decades of experience in legal research, including nearly 14 years with the Public Defender Service for DC. In this conversation, Laura shares her top three tips for crafting precise prompts when using generative AI, emphasizing clarity, specificity, and structure. She also offers insights on how traditional legal research methods—like those used with LexisNexis and Westlaw—can enhance AI-driven inquiries. Finally, Laura offers practical strategies for utilizing generative AI to help lawyers identify and locate physical legal resources, thereby bridging the gap between digital tools and tangible materials.

Join Laura and me as we discuss the following three questions and more!

  • What are your top three tips when it comes to precise prompt engineering, your generative AI inquiries?

  • What are your top three tips or tricks when it comes to using old-school prompts like those from the days of LexisNexis and Westlaw in your generative AI inquiries?

  • What are your top three tips or tricks using generative AI to help lawyers pinpoint actual physical resources?

In our conversation, we cover the following:

[00:40] Laura's Current Tech Setup

[03:27] Top 3 Tips for Crafting Precise Prompts in Generative AI

[13:44] Bringing Old-School Legal Research Tactics to Generative AI Prompting

[20:42] Using Generative AI to Help Lawyers Locate Physical Legal Resources

[24:38] Contact Information

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