ANNOUNCEMENT: The Lawyer’s Guide to Podcasting Is Here: A Practical, Ethical Launch Plan for Busy Lawyers 🎙️⚖️

I’m excited to share! The wait is over! The Lawyer’s Guide to Podcasting is officially released. 🎉🎙️ This book is built for lawyers, paralegals, and legal professionals who want a clear, practical path to launching a podcast—without needing to be “techy” to get it right.

Podcasting has become one of the most effective ways to build trust at scale. People want more than ads. They want a real voice. They want context. They want clarity. A podcast lets you educate, connect, and show your professional judgment in a way a website cannot. It also gives prospective clients a low-pressure way to get to know you before they ever call. 📈🤝

This guide covers the full podcast lifecycle in plain language. You will learn how to pick a topic that fits your goals and schedule. You will learn the most useful show formats for legal audiences, including solo episodes, interviews, storytelling, and educational series. You will also learn what to buy (and what to skip) when building your gear setup. That includes microphones, headphones, webcams, lighting, and basic acoustic improvements that matter in real offices. 🎧🎥💡

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Software matters too. In this book, I explain beginner and pro options for recording and editing. It also covers remote recording tools and simple video workflows for YouTube and modern platforms. You will get a clear explanation of podcast hosting and distribution, including how RSS feeds deliver your episodes to directories like Apple Podcasts and Spotify. 📲🌍

A major focus of this book is professional responsibility. Lawyers must avoid accidental legal advice. Lawyers must avoid creating unintended attorney-client relationships. Lawyers must also watch multi-jurisdictional issues and advertising rules. This guide addresses those risks directly and gives practical guardrails you can use in real episodes. 🛡️📜

You will also learn how to use AI efficiently and ethically. AI can save time on transcripts, show notes, clips, and repurposed content. It can also create risk if you feed it sensitive data or publish unverified output. The book offers a workflow-first approach that protects confidentiality and supports accuracy. ✅🤖

The Lawyer’s Guide to Podcasting is part of the Lawyers Tech Guide (LTG) series from Michael D.J. Eisenberg, creator of The Tech-Savvy Lawyer.Page. The mission is simple: use technology to communicate clearly, serve people better, and reclaim time. ⏳✨

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🎙️ Ep. 129, Why Lawyers Should Podcast in the Age of AI: Live Roundtable from Podfest 2026 🎙️⚖️

In this special episode, recorded live from Podfest 2026 in Orlando, FL at the Renaissance Marriott Hotel near SeaWorld, I was able to gather several attendees who are in the legal world—lawyers and legal industry marketers—to talk about why lawyers should podcast and more! 🎙️ Our roundtable features Dennis “DM” Meador (Legal Podcast Network), Louis Goodman (Love Thy Lawyer), Robert Ingalls (Lawpods), Wendi Weiner (The Writing Guru), and Elizabeth Gearhart (Passage to Profit / Gearhart Law), each bringing deep experience in podcasting, legal marketing, and personal branding for lawyers.

We discuss practical, no-fluff insights about how lawyers can use podcasting to build authority, strengthen SEO, show up in large language models (LLMs) like ChatGPT, and connect more authentically with clients and referral sources. Whether you are tech-curious, tech-comfortable, or completely new to podcasting, this episode will help you decide if starting a podcast makes strategic sense for your practice or business.

QUESTIONS WE DISCUSS 🎯

Join Dennis, Louis, Robert, Wendi, Elizabeth, and me as we discuss the following three questions and more!

  1. Why should lawyers be podcasting in 2026 and beyond, especially with Gen Z and Gen Alpha getting so much of their trusted information from podcasts and social platforms?

  2. What is one of the first concrete steps a lawyer should take if they are seriously considering launching a podcast of their own?

  3. What is one of the biggest mistakes lawyers should watch out for when launching a podcast, and how can they avoid becoming a “zombie podcast” that dies after a few episodes? 🧟‍♂️

Additional themes we explore include:

  • How podcasting acts as an “electronic resume” and trust-building tool for lawyers.

  • How podcasts can drive SEO, get you discovered in LLMs like ChatGPT, Google Gemini, Perplexity, and Claude, and generate traffic to your law firm website.

  • Why your podcast does not always need to be “about the law” to be effective for your legal brand.

  • How to balance authenticity (including salty language) with your professional brand and ethics rules.

TIME-STAMPED EPISODE GUIDE ⏱️

In our conversation, we cover the following:

  • 00:00 – Welcome & guest introductions
    Live from Podfest 2026: intros from Dennis “DM” Meador (Legal Podcast Network), Louis Goodman (Love Thy Lawyer), Robert Ingalls (Lawpods), Wendi Weiner (The Writing Guru), and Elizabeth Gearhart (Passage to Profit / Gearhart Law).

  • 02:00 – Why should lawyers be podcasting?

    • Gen Z and Gen Alpha treat podcasts as a top trusted media source. 📲

    • Podcasting vs TikTok for lawyers who don’t want to dance but still want reach.

    • Podcast as “electronic resume” and branding vehicle for lawyers and judges.

  • 04:30 – Is podcasting right for every lawyer?

    • Robert on why not every lawyer should podcast, and why goals matter.

    • How a podcast helps potential clients decide if you are “their” lawyer—or not.

  • 06:30 – Personality, language, and fit

    • The Tampa PI lawyer who refuses to bleep swear words to attract the right clients and repel the wrong ones. 🤬

    • Why authenticity can be a powerful qualification tool, not a liability.

  • 08:00 – Podcasting as a marketing engine

    • Turning a 30–60 minute recording into video clips, written content, and evergreen assets.

    • How podcast content keeps working for you long after the recording session.

  • 09:30 – Personal branding and storytelling for lawyers

    • Wendi on using podcasts to develop a personal brand, tell your story, and highlight your “superpower” as a lawyer.

    • Why sharing your career pivots and non-traditional path resonates deeply with listeners.

  • 12:00 – Getting discovered in ChatGPT and other LLMs

    • Elizabeth on using a podcast and transcripts to improve visibility in ChatGPT, Google Gemini, Perplexity, and Claude. 🤖

    • How regular podcasting and transcript optimization sustained and improved hits from LLMs to Gearhart Law’s website.

  • 15:30 – Future-proofing and “language-based internet”

    • DM explains why we’re moving from a page-based to a language-based internet and why early podcast adopters will win—similar to early website and SEO adopters.

    • Podcasting as both “future-proofing” and “present-proofing” your practice.

  • 18:00 – Hobby vs business podcast

    • Louis on starting his podcast as a social hobby and discovering the SEO and networking upside.

    • How a niche local legal podcast can drive referrals and reputation even without direct monetization.

  • 21:00 – How personal is too personal?

    • Robert’s own experience evolving his podcast from estate planning to broader personal topics.

    • Balancing sharing about yourself with focusing on the listener’s problem (StoryBrand “guide vs hero” concept).

  • 25:00 – Beyond law: topic flexibility

    • Why your legal podcast can focus on tech, politics, entrepreneurship, or hobbies while still supporting your legal brand.

    • Examples of lawyers podcasting about politics and broader societal issues to grow recognition.

  • 28:30 – Helping lawyers find their story

    • Wendi’s process: asking about upbringing, first-generation experiences, career pivots, athletic feats, and long-term goals to unlock unique stories.

    • How those stories fuel compelling podcast episodes and stronger interviews.

  • 34:00 – Thinking beyond your current role

    • Using podcasting and personal branding to position yourself for boards, politics, and second careers outside traditional law practice.

  • 37:00 – AI hallucinations & validating LLM output

    • Elizabeth’s workflow for cross-checking answers across ChatGPT, Gemini, Perplexity, Claude, and Grok.

    • Why LLMs “love” natural, conversational podcast transcripts as training material.

  • 40:00 – Networking power of “you should be on my podcast”

    • How inviting people as guests changes the dynamic at networking events. 🤝

    • Using podcast guest outreach on LinkedIn and pod-match style platforms.

  • 43:00 – Content, authority, and algorithm signals

    • DM on why consistent, custom content will always outperform gimmicks in SEO and algorithm changes.

    • How podcasts support authority, trust, and long-term discoverability in search and LLMs.

  • 48:00 – Question #2: First steps for lawyers considering a podcast

    • Robert and DM: “Know your why” and who your ideal listener/client really is.

    • Are you using the show for lead nurturing, referral education, or brand visibility?

  • 52:00 – Political/legal shows and indirect monetization

    • Discussion of political/legal commentary podcasts that soft-sell the firm.

    • Why they can work—but why expectations and time horizon matter.

  • 56:00 – Brand consistency before you launch

    • Wendi on auditing your website, LinkedIn, business page, and social handles for consistent branding (e.g., “The Writing Guru”).

    • Using CTAs and data capture to turn podcast listeners into contacts.

  • 59:00 – Knowing your deeper “why”

    • Elizabeth’s “peel the onion” exercise: repeatedly asking why until you reach the core motivation, often helping people out of “impossible situations.”

  • 1:03:00 – Solo vs agency vs studio

    • Pros and cons of DIY gear and production vs working with podcast agencies or studios.

    • Why time value, ethics, and avoiding scams all matter for lawyers.

  • 1:08:00 – Ethics, multi-jurisdiction practice, and global reach

    • How legal ethics, multistate audiences, and global distribution impact what lawyers can say on their podcasts.

  • 1:12:00 – Question #3: Biggest mistakes lawyers make launching a podcast

    • Elizabeth: ethics, off-the-cuff comments, and aligning tone (including swearing) with your brand and practice area.

    • Wendi: perfectionism vs progress—accepting that early episodes will be imperfect but valuable.

    • Robert: no long-term plan and no content strategy, leading to inconsistency and podfade.

    • Louis: underestimating time; a solid 30 minutes of content may require several hours early on.

    • DM: expecting immediate impact and treating podcasting like a short-term campaign instead of a long-term asset.

  • 1:22:00 – Test-driving podcasting as a guest first

    • Why appearing as a guest on other shows (via Podmatch and similar platforms) is a smart “trial run” before launching your own.

  • 1:25:00 – Where to find today’s guests & closing

    • Each guest shares their preferred platforms, emails, and websites so you can connect and learn more.

RESOURCES 📚

Connect with our Guests

Louis Goodman ⚖️

Elizabeth Gearhart 📻

Robert Ingalls 🎧

Dennis “DM” Meador 💼

Wendi Weiner ✍️

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Hardware mentioned 🧰

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🎙️Ep. 128, Building a Tech-Forward Law Firm: AI Intake, CRM Strategy & Client Experience with Colleen Joyce!

My next guest is Colleen Joyce, CEO of Lawyer.com, a leading legal marketplace that connects over one million consumers monthly with qualified attorneys nationwide. With nearly two decades of experience transforming how law firms leverage technology and marketing, Colleen has pioneered innovations including LawyerLine call intake services, AI-powered matching technology, and the Lawyer Growth Summit. She publishes the Fast Five newsletter every Tuesday, reaching over 20,000 legal professionals with insights on AI trends, business growth strategies, and practice management. In this episode, Colleen shares her expertise on the essential technologies modern law firms need to scale profitably, how AI is revolutionizing client intake processes, and the critical human touchpoints that should never be automated in legal practice.

💬 Join Colleen Joyce and me as we discuss the following three questions and more!

1.     Beyond the essential lead generation that Lawyer.com provides, you see thousands of firms succeed and fail based on their operational efficiency. If you are building a modern law firm from scratch today, what are the top three non-negotiable technologies? For example, specific CRM automations, financial analytics, or project management tools you would implement immediately to ensure the firm scales profitably rather than just chaotically.

2.     We know AI is reshaping the top of the funnel for legal consumers. Based on the data you're seeing from your new AI initiatives, what are the top three specific intake bottlenecks that AI can now solve better than a human receptionist? Allowing attorneys to focus primarily on high-value legal work rather than data entry or basic screening.

3.     Technology can handle logistics, but it can't handle the emotion of legal crisis. From your experience overseeing millions of consumer connections, what are the top three human touchpoints in the client lifecycle that a lawyer should never automate? Because they are crucial for building the trust and transparency that leads to long-term referrals.

In our conversation, we cover the following:

-      00:00:00 - Welcome and Introduction to Colleen Joyce

-      00:00:20 - Colleen's Current Tech Setup: MacBook Pro, iPhone 16, iPad, and Curved Monitor

-      00:01:00 - Discussion about iPhone Models and AppleCare Benefits

-      00:02:00 - Using Plaud AI for Recording Conversations

-      00:03:00 - MacBook Pro Specifications and Upgrade Recommendations

-      00:04:00 - Dell Curved Monitor Benefits for Focus and Productivity

-      00:05:00 - Question 1: Top Three Non-Negotiable Technologies for Modern Law Firms

-      00:06:00 - Intake Technology, CRM, and Practice Management Systems

-      00:07:00 - Balancing Cost and Technology for New Lawyers

-      00:08:00 - Leveraging Freemium Tools and AI for Budget-Conscious Firms

-      00:08:30 - Question 2: AI Solutions for Intake Bottlenecks

-      00:09:00 - Answering Phones with Empathetic AI Agents

-      00:10:00 - Importance of Legal-Specific AI Training

-      00:11:00 - Consumer Adoption and Resistance to AI vs. Human Agents

-      00:12:00 - Using Virtual Receptionists and Calendly for Scheduling

-      00:13:00 - Generational Differences in Technology Adoption

-      00:14:00 - The Evolution of Legal Technology Adoption Over 14 Years

-      00:15:00 - Question 3: Human Touchpoints That Should Never Be Automated

-      00:16:00 - Relationship Building and the Courting Period

-      00:17:00 - Screening Clients Through Your Tech Processes

-      00:18:00 - Where to Find Colleen: LinkedIn and the Fast Five Newsletter - 00:18:30 - Closing Remarks and Gratitude

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📚 Resources

🤝 Connect with Colleen Joyce

•  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/colleenjoyce

•  Lawyer.com: https://www.lawyer.com

•  Lawyer.com Services: https://services.lawyer.com

•  Fast Five Newsletter (Published Tuesdays): https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/ fast-five-fridays-7265815097552326656

•  Lawyer Growth Summit: https://lawyergrowthsummit.com

•  Lawyer.com Phone: 800-620-0900

•  Lawyer.com Address: 25 Mountainview Boulevard, Basking Ridge, NJ 07920

📖 Mentioned in the Episode

•  MacRumors Buyer's Guide: https://buyersguide.macrumors.com

•  LawyerLine (24-hour Intake Services) : https://www.lawyerline.ai/

🖥 Hardware Mentioned in the Conversation

•  MacBook Pro : https://www.apple.com/macbook-pro/

•  MacBook Pro with M4/M5 Chips (Upgrade recommendation): https://www.apple.com/macbook-pro/

•  iPhone 16: https://www.apple.com/iphone-16/

•  iPad: https://www.apple.com/ipad/

•  Dell Curved Monitor (22-24 inch, white): https://www.dell.com/monitors

•  HP Printer (with automatic duplex printing): https://www.hp.com/printers

☁ Software & Cloud Services Mentioned in the Conversation

•  Plaud AI (Call Recording & Transcription): https://www.plaud.ai

Slack (Team Communication Platform): https://slack.com

•  iMessage (Apple Messaging): https://support.apple.com/en-us/104969

•  Calendly (Scheduling Software): https://calendly.com

•  Monday.com (Project Management & Team Organization): https://monday.com

•  ChatGPT (AI Assistant): https://openai.com/chatgpt

•  AppleCare (Apple Device Protection): https://www.apple.com/support/applecare/

🎙️ Ep. #127: Mastering Legal Storytelling and AI Automation with Joshua Altman 🎙️⚖️

In Episode 127, I sit down with Joshua Altman, Managing Director of Beltway.Media, to decode the intersection of legal expertise and narrative strategy. 🏛️ We dive deep into the tech stack that powers a modern communications firm and explore how lawyers can leverage AI without losing their unique professional voice. Joshua shares actionable insights on using tools like Gumloop and Abacus.AI to automate workflows, the critical mistakes to avoid during high-stakes crisis management, and the real metrics you need to track to prove marketing ROI. 📊 Whether you are a solo practitioner or part of a large firm, this conversation bridges the gap between complex legal work and compelling public communication.

Join Joshua Altman and me as we discuss the following three questions and more!

  1. What are the top three technology tools or platforms you recommend that would help attorneys transform a single piece of thought leadership into multiple content formats across channels, and how can they use AI to accelerate this process without sacrificing their professional voice?

  2. What are the top three mistakes attorneys and law firms make when communicating during high-stakes situations—whether that’s managing negative publicity, navigating a client crisis, or pitching to potential investors—and how can technology help them avoid these pitfalls while maintaining their ethical obligations?

  3. What are the top three metrics for their online marketing technology investments that attorneys should actually be tracking to demonstrate return on investment, and what affordable technology solutions would you recommend to help them capture and analyze this data?

In our conversation, we cover the following:

  • [00:00] Introduction to Joshua Altman and Beltway.Media.

  • [01:06] Joshua’s current secure tech stack: From Mac setups to encrypted communications.

  • [03:52] Strategic content repurposing: Using AI as a tool, not a replacement for your voice.

  • [05:30] The "Human in the Loop" necessity: Why lawyers must proofread AI content.

  • [10:00] Tech Recommendation #1: using Abacus.AI and Root LLM for model routing.

  • [11:00] Tech Recommendation #2: Automating workflows with Gumloop.

  • [15:43] Tech Recommendation #3: The "Low Tech" solution of human editors.

  • [16:47] Crisis Communications: Navigating the Court of Public Opinion vs. the Court of Law.

  • [20:00] Using social listening tools for litigation support and witness tracking.

  • [24:30] Metric #1: Analyzing Meaningful Engagement (comments vs. likes).

  • [26:40] Metric #2: Understanding Impressions and network reach (1st vs. 2nd degree).

  • [28:40] Metric #3: Tracking Clicks to validate interest and sales funnels.

  • [31:15] How to connect with Joshua.

RESOURCES:

Connect with Joshua Altman

Mentioned in the episode

Hardware mentioned in the conversation

Software & Cloud Services mentioned in the conversation

  • Abacus.AI - AI platform mentioned for its "Root LLM" model routing feature.

  • ChatGPT - AI language model.

  • Claude - AI language model.

  • Constant Contact - Email marketing platform.

  • Gumloop - AI automation platform for newsletters and social listening.

  • LinkedIn - Professional social networking.

  • MailChimp - Email marketing platform.

  • Proton Mail - Encrypted email service.

  • Tresorit - End-to-end encrypted file sharing (secure Dropbox alternative).

🧪🎧 TSL Labs Bonus Podcast: Open vs. Closed AI — The Hidden Liability Trap in Your Firm ⚖️🤖

Welcome to TSL Labs Podcast Experiment. 🧪🎧 In this special "Deep Dive" bonus episode, we strip away the hype surrounding Generative AI to expose a critical operational risk hiding in plain sight: the dangerous confusion between "Open" and "Closed" AI systems.

Featuring an engaging discussion between our Google Notebook AI hosts, this episode unpacks the "Swiss Army Knife vs. Scalpel" analogy that every managing partner needs to understand. We explore why the "Green Light" tools you pay for are fundamentally different from the "Red Light" public models your staff might be using—and why treating them the same could trigger an immediate breach of ABA Model Rule 5.3. From the "hidden crisis" of AI embedded in Microsoft 365 to the non-negotiable duty to supervise, this is the essential briefing for protecting client confidentiality in the age of algorithms.

In our conversation, we cover the following:

  • [00:00] – Introduction: The hidden danger of AI in law firms.

  • [01:00] – The "AI Gap": Why staff confuse efficiency with confidentiality.

  • [02:00] – The Green Light Zone: Defining secure, "Closed" AI systems (The Scalpel).

  • [03:45] – The Red Light Zone: Understanding "Open" Public LLMs (The Swiss Army Knife).

  • [04:45] – "Feeding the Beast": How public queries actively train the model for everyone else.

  • [05:45]The Duty to Supervise: ABA Model Rules 5.3 and 1.1[8] implications.

  • [07:00] – The Hidden Crisis: AI embedded in ubiquitous tools (Microsoft 365, Adobe, Zoom).

  • [09:00] – The Training Gap: Why digital natives assume all prompt boxes are safe.

  • [10:00] – Actionable Solutions: Auditing tools and the "Elevator vs. Private Room" analogy.

  • [12:00] – Hallucinations: Vendor liability vs. Professional negligence.

  • [14:00] – Conclusion: The final provocative thought on accidental breaches.

RESOURCES

Mentioned in the episode

Software & Cloud Services mentioned in the conversation

TSL Labs 🧪Bonus: 🎙️ From Cyber Compliance to Cyber Dominance: What VA's AI Revolution Means for Government Cybersecurity, Legal Ethics, and ABA Model Rule Compliance!

In this TSL Labs bonus episode, we examine this week’s editorial on how the Department of Veterans Affairs is leading a historic transformation from traditional compliance frameworks to a dynamic, AI-driven approach called "cyber dominance." This conversation unpacks what this seismic shift means for legal professionals across all practice areas—from procurement and contract law to privacy, FOIA, and litigation. Whether you're advising government agencies, representing contractors, or handling cases where data security matters, this discussion provides essential insights into how continuous monitoring, zero trust architecture, and AI-driven threat detection are redefining professional competence under ABA Model Rule 1.1. 💻⚖️🤖

Join our AI hosts and me as we discuss the following three questions and more!

  1. How has federal cybersecurity evolved from the compliance era to the cyber dominance paradigm? 🔒

  2. What are the three technical pillars—continuous monitoring, zero trust architecture, and AI-driven detection—and how do they interconnect? 🛡️

  3. What professional liability and ethical obligations do lawyers now face under ABA Model Rule 1.1 regarding technology competence? ⚖️

In our conversation, we cover the following:

  • [00:00:00] - Introduction: TSL Labs Bonus Podcast on VA's AI Revolution 🎯

  • [00:01:00] - Introduction to Federal Cybersecurity: The End of the Compliance Era 📋

  • [00:02:00] - Legal Implications and Professional Liability Under ABA Model Rules ⚖️

  • [00:03:00] - From Compliance to Continuous Monitoring: Understanding the Static Security Model 🔄

  • [00:04:00] - The False Comfort of Compliance-Only Approaches 🚨

  • [00:05:00] - The Shift to Cyber Dominance: Three Integrated Technical Pillars 💪

  • [00:06:00] - Zero Trust Architecture (ZTA) Explained: Verify Everything, Trust Nothing 🔐

  • [00:07:00] - AI-Driven Detection and Legal Challenges: Professional Competence Under Model Rule 1.1 🤖

  • [00:08:00] - The New Legal Questions: Real-Time Risk vs. Static Compliance 📊

  • [00:09:00] - Evolving Compliance: From Paper Checks to Dynamic Evidence 📈

  • [00:10:00] - Cybersecurity as Operational Discipline: DevSecOps and Security by Design 🔧

  • [00:11:00] - Litigation Risks: Discovery, Red Teaming, and Continuous Monitoring Data ⚠️

  • [00:12:00] - Cyber Governance with AI: Algorithmic Bias and Explainability 🧠

  • [00:13:00] - Synthesis and Future Outlook: Law Must Lead, Not Chase Technology 🚀

  • [00:14:00] - The Ultimate Question: Is Your Advice Ready for Real-Time Risk Management? 💡

  • [00:15:00] - Conclusion and Resources 📚

Resources

Mentioned in the Episode

Software & Cloud Services Mentioned in the Conversation

  • AI-Driven Detection Systems - Automated threat detection and response platforms

  • Automated Compliance Platforms - Dynamic evidence generation systems

  • Continuous Monitoring Systems - Real-time security assessment platforms

  • DevSecOps Tools - Automated security testing in software development pipelines

  • Firewalls - Network security hardware devices

  • Google Notebook AI - https://notebooklm.google.com/

  • Penetration Testing Software - Security vulnerability assessment tools

  • Zero Trust Architecture (ZTA) Solutions - Identity and access verification systems

🎙️Ep. 126: AI and Access to Justice With Pearl.com Associate General Counsel Nick Tiger

Our next guest is Nick Tiger, Associate General Counsel at Pearl.com, Nick shares insights on integrating AI into legal practice. Pearl.com champions AI and human expertise for professional services. He outlines practical uses such as market research, content creation, intake automation, and improved billing efficiency, while stressing the need to avoid liability through robust human oversight.

Nick is a legal leader at Pearl.com, partnering on product design, technology, and consumer-protection compliance strategy. He previously served as Head of Product Legal at EarnIn, an earned-wage access pioneer, building practical guidance for responsible feature launches, and as Senior Counsel at Capital One, supporting consumer products and regulatory matters. Nick holds a J.D. from the University of Missouri–Kansas City, lives in Richmond, Virginia, and is especially interested in using technology to expand rural community access to justice.

During the conversation, Nick highlights emerging tools, such as conversation wizards and expert-matching systems, that enhance communication and case preparation. He also explains Pearl AI's unique model, which blends chatbot capabilities with human expert verification to ensure accuracy in high-stakes or subjective matters.

Nick encourages lawyers to adopt human-in-the-loop protocols and consider joining Pearl's expert network to support accessible, reliable legal services.

Join Nick and me as we discuss the following three questions and more!

  1. What are the top three most impactful ways lawyers can immediately implement AI technology in their practices while avoiding the liability pitfalls that have led to sanctions in recent high-profile cases?

  2. Beyond legal research and document review, what are the top three underutilized or emerging AI applications that could transform how lawyers deliver value to clients, and how should firms evaluate which technologies to adopt?

  3. What are the top three criteria Pearl uses to determine when human expert verification is essential versus when AI alone is sufficient? How can lawyers apply this framework to develop their own human-in-the-loop protocols for AI-assisted legal work, and how is Perl different from its competitors?

In our conversation, we cover the following:

[00:56] Nick's Tech Setup

[07:28] Implementing AI in Legal Practices

[17:07] Emerging AI Applications in Legal Services

[26:06] Pearl AI's Unique Approach to AI and Legal Services

[31:42] Developing Human-in-the-Loop Protocols

[34:34] Pearl AI's Advantages Over Competitors

[36:33] Becoming an Expert on Pearl AI

Resources:

Connect with Nick:

Nick's LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/nicktigerjd

Pearl.com Website: pearl.com

Pearl.com Expert Application Portal: era.justanswer.com/

Pearl.com LinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/pearl-com

Pearl.com X: x.com/Pearldotcom

ABA Resources:

ABA Formal Opinion 512: https://www.americanbar.org/content/dam/aba/administrative/professional_responsibility/ethics-opinions/aba-formal-opinion-512.pdf

Hardware mentioned in the conversation:

Anker Backup Battery / Power Bank: anker.com/collections/power-banks

Software & Cloud Services mentioned in the conversation:

TSL Labs Bonus Podcast: Google’s Notebook LLM “Deep Dive” on December 1st, 2025, editorial on the the Lawyer’s Defense Against Holiday Scams and ‘Bargain’ Tech Traps!

Listen in as Google's Notebook LLM provides an AI-powered conversation unpacks our December 1st, 2025 editorial examining how the holiday digital marketplace transforms into a lucrative hunting ground for device compromise and credential theft. We explore why attorneys and paralegals—trained to spot hidden clauses and anticipate risk—often abandon professional skepticism when faced with shiny gadgets bearing 70% off stickers. Our discussion arms you with actionable strategies to protect your practice, safeguard client confidentiality, and prevent the kind of security breaches that trigger bar complaints and operational shutdowns. Whether you're a solo practitioner or part of a large firm, this episode delivers the technical insights you need without the jargon.

Join Google's Notebook LLM as we discuss the following three questions and more!

  1. How do bargain tech deals create hidden professional liabilities that extend far beyond wasted money, and what specific technical deficits should lawyers avoid in discount hardware?

  2. What free forensic tools can legal professionals use to distinguish genuine discounts from manipulated pricing schemes, and how do these tools apply procurement-level rigor to personal shopping decisions?

  3. Which three active scam vectors target high-value professionals during the holiday season, and what mandatory four-point protocol ensures comprehensive protection against credential theft and device compromise?

In our conversation, we cover the following:

  • [00:00:00] Welcome to TSL Labs Bonus Episode: AI-powered deep dive on holiday shopping risks

  • [00:01:00] Why legal professionals abandon professional skepticism during holiday sales

  • [00:02:00] The high stakes: credential theft, device compromise, and operational lockdown

  • [00:03:00] The bargain trap: understanding technical debt in cheap vs. inexpensive hardware

  • [00:04:00] Processor bottleneck red flags: older generation chips that consume billable time

  • [00:05:00] Screen resolution hazards: how 1366x768 displays create genuine error risks

  • [00:06:00] RAM deficits and security longevity: when devices become e-waste and compliance gaps

  • [00:07:00] Introduction to forensic price tracking tools for procurement-level shopping

  • [00:08:00] CamelCamelCamel, Keepa, and Honey: free tools that reveal true pricing history

  • [00:09:00] Malwarebytes 2025 holiday scam report: three attack vectors targeting professionals

  • [00:10:00] Scam #1: urgent delivery smishing attacks exploiting package expectations

  • [00:11:00] Scam #2: malvertising minefield—when legitimate ads redirect to cloned fraud sites

  • [00:12:00] Scam #3: gift card emergency scams posing as court clerks and government officials

  • [00:13:00] Bonus threat: social media marketplace fraud and payment protection gaps

  • [00:14:00] The mandatory four-point protocol for holiday shopping protection

  • [00:15:00] Final thoughts: applying contract-reading diligence to every link you click

Resources

Hardware Mentioned in the Conversation

Software & Cloud Services Mentioned in the Conversation

📻 BONUS: Tech-Savvy Lawyer on Law Practice Today Podcast — Essential Trust Account Tips for Solo & Small Law Firms w/ Terrell Turner

🙏 Special Thanks to Terrell Turner and the ABA for having me on the Law Practice Today Podcast, produced by the Law Practice Division of the American Bar Association. We have an important discussion on trust account management. We cover essential insights on managing trust accounts using online services. This episode has been edited for time, but no information was altered. We are grateful to the ABA and the Law Practice Today Podcast for allowing us to share this valuable conversation with our audience.

🎯 Join Terrell and me as we discuss the following three questions and more!

  1. What precautions should lawyers using online services to manage trust accounts be aware of?

  2. How can solo and small firm attorneys find competent bookkeepers who understand legal trust accounting?

  3. What security measures should attorneys implement when using online payment processors for client funds?

⏱️ In our conversation, we cover the following:

00:00 – Introduction & Preview: Trust Accounts in the Digital Age

01:00 – Welcome to the Law Practice Today Podcast

01:30 – Today's Topic: Online Services for Payments

02:00 – Guest Introduction: Michael D.J. Eisenberg's Background

03:00 – Michael's Experience with Trust Accounts

04:00 – Challenges for Solo and Small Practitioners

05:00 – Ensuring Security in Online Services

06:00 – Questions to Ask Online Payment Providers

07:00 – Password Security & Two-Factor Authentication

08:00 – Finding a Competent Legal Bookkeeper

09:00 – Why 8AM Law Pay Works for Attorneys

10:00 – Daily Monitoring of Trust Accounts

11:00 – FDIC Insurance & Silicon Valley Bank Lessons

13:00 – Researching Trust Account Best Practices

15:00 – Closing Remarks & Podcast Information

📚 Resources

🔗 Connect with Terrell

💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/terrellturner/

🌐 Website: https://www.tlturnergroup.com/

🎙️ Law Practice Today Podcast – https://lawpracticetoday.buzzsprout.com

📰 Mentioned in the Episode

💻 Software & Cloud Services Mentioned in the Conversation

  • 8AM Law Pay – Legal payment processing designed for trust account compliance – https://www.8am.com/lawpay/

  • 1Password – Password manager for generating and syncing complex passwords – https://1password.com/

  • LastPass – Mentioned as a password manager with noted security concerns – https://www.lastpass.com/